Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

03/29/2006 08:30 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 343 HARASSMENT/ASSAULT/STALKING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 343(JUD)AM Out of Committee
+= HB 272 CARD ROOMS & OPERATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
               HB 343-HARASSMENT/ASSAULT/STALKING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:43:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  RALPH SEEKINS  announced CSHB  343(JUD)  AM to  be up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN introduced  the bill, which was requested                                                               
by  correctional  officers  across  the state  as  a  measure  of                                                               
protection  from inmates  who assault  them  with bodily  fluids.                                                               
Currently, most assaults with bodily  fluids or feces can only be                                                               
charged as a  class B misdemeanor. The bill creates  the crime of                                                               
harassment in  the first degree  for anyone who  subjects another                                                               
person  to  offensive  physical  contact  with  human  or  animal                                                               
"blood,  mucus,  saliva,  semen,  urine,  vomit,  or  feces"  and                                                               
classifies that crime as a class A misdemeanor.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Twenty-six  states have  enacted  similar legislation  and 19  of                                                               
those classify the  assaults as felonies. Alaska  should at least                                                               
raise this crime up one level  and provide for a minimum sentence                                                               
of  60   days  in  jail   when  the  offensive  is   directed  at                                                               
correctional officers, law enforcement, and first responders.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:47:50 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN urged  the committee  to move  the bill  out                                                               
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:48:27 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GENE  THERRIAULT referred to  page 2, line 17,  and asked                                                               
the reason for including animal bodily fluids.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  SICA, Staff  to Representative  Bob Lynn,  responded the                                                               
bill protects  more than just  correctional officers  although it                                                               
is important  to note that  the Point McKenzie  Correctional Farm                                                               
does have animals.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:49:18 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Hollis French joined the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS  advised that kids  often have fights with  cow and                                                               
horse manure. He asked whether that was considered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  suggested that law enforcement  officers and                                                               
prosecutors have discretion as to who they seek to prosecute.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SICA  added the harassment  statute specifies that  one would                                                               
have to commit the act with the intent to annoy or harass.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:50:47 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  noted the statute  requires intent, which  is the                                                               
highest  level  of  criminal  liability.  He  asked  whether  the                                                               
Department of Law  (DOL) considered lowering that  to a "knowing"                                                               
standard in order to make it easier to prosecute.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SICA deferred to the Department of Law.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:52:22 AM                                                                                                                    
VERNON MARSHAL, Lobbyist, testified in support of the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:53:47 AM                                                                                                                    
ANNE  CARPENETI, Assistant  Attorney General,  Department of  Law                                                               
(DOL) advised that the Department supports the bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  restated his earlier question  regarding lowering                                                               
the  intent standard  to a  "knowing" standard,  at least  in the                                                               
case of harassment in the first degree.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI agreed  that "knowing" would be  an easier standard                                                               
to  prove.  Several  of  the  provisions  under  AS  11.61.120(a)                                                               
preserve the  First Amendment  rights to  expression. HB  343 was                                                               
drafted to cross-reference the current  statute. It would be easy                                                               
to  prove that  a person  who engaged  in this  type of  behavior                                                               
intended to annoy  somebody because the acts are  so specific and                                                               
unpleasant.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH suggested there could be  a case of a first degree                                                               
[misdemeanor] with  a knowing standard  and then a  second degree                                                               
[misdemeanor]  with an  intentional  standard and  they would  be                                                               
reversed in severity.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said she  was not concerned  given the  subject of                                                               
the act.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:57:43 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  THERRIAULT asked  Ms. Carpeneti  the reason  for putting                                                               
the act under harassment. The  definition of "harass" is to annoy                                                               
or torment  repeatedly. He  asked whether  one instance  could be                                                               
defined as harassment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI responded under AS  11.61.120(a)(5) it would be. In                                                               
the harassment law, some of  the provisions deal with speech such                                                               
as offensive telephone calls at  odd hours. For physical contact,                                                               
one time  would be enough  for the DOL  to be able  to prosecute.                                                               
She  said she  did  not know  the reason  for  drafting it  under                                                               
harassment but said it was a logical place for it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:59:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SEEKINS  posed  the  hypothetical  situation  of  children                                                               
throwing horse manure at each  other and asked whether that would                                                               
be a violation of the law.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  replied since  they are  juveniles the  conduct of                                                               
harassment would be very difficult to prove.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PORTIA  PARKER, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department of  Corrections                                                               
(DOC)  introduced herself  and said  the Department  does support                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS  asked  Ms.  Parker   how  often  these  types  of                                                               
incidences occur in the correctional system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER advised  the DOC  surveyed the  state facilities  and                                                               
reported  that  approximately  150  incidences of  this  type  of                                                               
harassment  occurs  each  year.  Currently they  deal  with  this                                                               
situation in the  system but the bill would  heighten the penalty                                                               
and reduce the instances.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:02:13 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS noted  that the fiscal notes showed  zero. He asked                                                               
whether  there  might  be  a  fiscal  impact  from  an  increased                                                               
sentence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER responded  that it would have a fiscal  impact for the                                                               
DOC in  the form of  a sixty-day  sentence for those  charged and                                                               
convicted.  She could  not speculate  as to  the number  of cases                                                               
that would be prosecuted.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  complimented  the Point  McKenzie  Correctional                                                               
Farm system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  asked Ms.  Parker to  address the  issue regarding                                                               
animals.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  said that  would be more  for incidences  outside the                                                               
correctional institutions.  Police officers and  first responders                                                               
often deal  with combative people  who might use animal  waste to                                                               
ward them  off. She did  not believe  it was anything  that would                                                               
come up in the correctional facilities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:05:33 AM                                                                                                                    
DANIEL   COLANG,   President,   Alaska   Correctional   Officer's                                                               
Association, advised the committee  that there were approximately                                                               
700 correctional officers across  the state. He said correctional                                                               
officers "walk  the toughest beat  in law enforcement."  Very few                                                               
people  know what  goes on  behind  the walls  of a  correctional                                                               
institution  but suffice  to  say officers  deal  with people  at                                                               
their  very worst.  Correctional  officers know  the dangers  and                                                               
risks  of their  duties and  the incidences  of officers  getting                                                               
assaulted with bodily fluids are not uncommon.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OFFICER COLANG  related a personal  situation and stated  the job                                                               
is  dangerous  enough  without  having  to  worry  about  someone                                                               
assaulting them  with bodily fluids. He  encouraged the committee                                                               
to move the bill forward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
MAY  BARNEY,  Correctional   Officer  at  Fairbanks  Correctional                                                               
Center, testified in support of  the bill. She related a personal                                                               
story of a prisoner assaulting her.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:14:07 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS closed public testimony and called a brief recess.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  moved  CSHB 343(JUD)  am  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  attached  fiscal  notes.  There                                                               
being no objections, the motion carried.                                                                                        

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